Fiocchi 158 gr subsonic 9mm FMJRN ammo

texas skeeter · 07-26-2010, 11:48 PM

anyone shot much of this stuff?? i hope it worked well in any of your m10's out there. cause i bought a ton of it for a good price!! figure i'd try it through my mac w/ gemtech viper.

any thought on it?? TS

**cajun 22** · 07-27-2010, 08:03 PM

I use it in two SBR uzis with an MK9k and works/sounds good. I ran some in a M11/9 at a class 3 shoot one time and it worked great. The owner said the rate of fire increased a little also.

Is there any left where you bought it? Might need to get some more.

StooperZero · 07-27-2010, 08:15 PM

HOW quiet??

with 147' gr JHP all Im getting is bolt cycling and round hitting.

**ratski** · 07-27-2010, 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by texas skeeter

anyone shot much of this stuff?? i hope it worked well in any of your m10's out there. cause i bought a ton of it for a good price!! figure i'd try it through my mac w/ gemtech viper.

any thought on it?? TS

How quiet? Scary Quiet. I've heard typewriters and paintball guns louder than my FA Uzi and the Gemtech on it.

Really, Really quiet. Really, Really.

How much is a ton and how good was the price? Any of it still left?

This is one that I would buy it cheap and stack it as deep as I could.

Dave

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 08:51 PM

thanks for the reply!! i was a little unsure of this ammo as this will be my first F/A toy!! i bought 7500 rds of it from an estate auction here in DFW texas. i think i paid 175$ per 1K. im not sure how i did on the price. and im still waiting on my 2nd m10 transfer from C-III to me. i have at least 8-10 weeks left i believe. cant wait to try it out.. TS

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by cajun 22

Is there any left where you bought it? Might need to get some more.

Sorry No. i bought it all!!

every one told me to stock up on 9mm ammo if i was getting an F/A..

**Vegas SMG** · 07-27-2010, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ratski

... How much is a ton and how good was the price? Any of it still left?
Dave

Yeah, How much and where?

StooperZero · 07-27-2010, 09:01 PM

so whatcha gonna do with all that brass?

**9mmsubgun-m11** · 07-27-2010, 10:07 PM

Brass is VERY DANGEROUS when empty.Don't leave it on the ground where someone could get hurt with it,don't throw it in a trash can as it may ferment with other items in said trash can and spontaneously combust.Box it up and send it to me and I will properly dispose of it for you.Just think,for a small shipping charge,you will be protecting the health of others=Makes YOU a Hero.

**cajun 22** · 07-27-2010, 10:13 PM

You did damn good on the price. I would say 1/2 of what it is selling for. 7500 rounds will last you about a week once you learn how to load the mags.

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by cajun 22

You did damn good on the price. I would say 1/2 of what it is selling for. 7500 rounds will last you about a week once you learn how to load the mags.

I guess i got lucky on the ammo, it sure doesnt happen often. right place right time i suppose. and i LOL'd at the "Weeks worth of ammo"!! as far as the mags, im up to 14 of the walther mac10 mags. ive been watching and buying them for 8 mo's now. many here told me they were the best. so we'll see how i load them soon..

the 1st damn transfer from the seller in tennessee to my C-III dealer took approx 110 days or so!!

cant wait to shoot it and eventually get educated here and learn how to reload the empties.. thanks for the input, TS

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 10:38 PM

and finally when i eventually learn to reload, where can i find 158gr 9mm bullets?? or is 147gr about the heaviest ill find these days??

**ratski** · 07-27-2010, 10:57 PM

Man, I'm really sorry. I didn't read the part about you having a MAC.

I guess you didn't read the boxes that the Fiocchi came in, they specifically say that they should never be used in a Mac. Damn, bummer dude.

Tell you what. Being the big hearted guy that I am, and not wanting to see you get stuck royally, I'll give you, say, 150 bucks/K just to make you feel better.

HA.

Seriously, a bunch of this stuff seems to have hit the market recently. I picked up two cases at 300 each and wish I could have gotten more of it.

At 175/1000 you did great. Even if it was 115 grn, that would be a good price.

Dave

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 11:13 PM

thanks Dave!! and I got lucky thats all.

I guess the sons gotta shine on a dogs a$$ every now and then!!

cause i usually always read of some other SHLEPP with the good fortune!!

texas skeeter · 07-27-2010, 11:41 PM

however i did find some Winchester Ranger subsonic 147gr FMJ 9mm at WWW.SGAMMO.COM for 119$ per 500rds. looks like they have approx 8000rds in stock.....happy hunting

**amphibian** · 07-28-2010, 07:22 AM

I got a 500 round case of that 158 gr Fiocchi several years ago. Only shot about a box of it for testing. Chrony'd it and it was really slow. Slower than the IMI Bluetip 158 grain.
Both the 158 Gr Fiocchi and 158 Gr IMI Bluetip produced less energy than factory FNM 147 grain or my 147 grain reloads. IMHO, not worth it to reload 158 Gr 9mm unless you want to load hotter than Fiocchi or IMI did and risk having to deal with overpressure issues. Just not worth it to me.

07-26-2010, 11:48 PM	#1
texas skeeter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: the last part of america where sh-t is still legal!! Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0%	Fiocchi 158 gr subsonic 9mm FMJRN ammo anyone shot much of this stuff?? i hope it worked well in any of your m10's out there. cause i bought a ton of it for a good price!! figure i'd try it through my mac w/ gemtech viper. any thought on it?? TS __________________ "Have Ammo?? Lets Party!!:uzi and "When basic morality and legal principal give you a green light to shoot the F-CKER, its probably a good idea to shoot the F-CKER!!"

07-27-2010, 08:51 PM	#5
texas skeeter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: the last part of america where sh-t is still legal!! Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0%	thanks for the reply!! i was a little unsure of this ammo as this will be my first F/A toy!! i bought 7500 rds of it from an estate auction here in DFW texas. i think i paid 175$ per 1K. im not sure how i did on the price. and im still waiting on my 2nd m10 transfer from C-III to me. i have at least 8-10 weeks left i believe. cant wait to try it out.. TS __________________ "Have Ammo?? Lets Party!!:uzi and "When basic morality and legal principal give you a green light to shoot the F-CKER, its probably a good idea to shoot the F-CKER!!"

07-27-2010, 10:07 PM	#9
9mmsubgun-m11 UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: E.Central Indiana Posts: 2,901 iTrader: 18 / 100%	Brass is VERY DANGEROUS when empty.Don't leave it on the ground where someone could get hurt with it,don't throw it in a trash can as it may ferment with other items in said trash can and spontaneously combust.Box it up and send it to me and I will properly dispose of it for you.Just think,for a small shipping charge,you will be protecting the health of others=Makes YOU a Hero. __________________ UZI DOES IT!!

07-27-2010, 10:38 PM	#12
texas skeeter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: the last part of america where sh-t is still legal!! Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0%	and finally when i eventually learn to reload, where can i find 158gr 9mm bullets?? or is 147gr about the heaviest ill find these days?? __________________ "Have Ammo?? Lets Party!!:uzi and "When basic morality and legal principal give you a green light to shoot the F-CKER, its probably a good idea to shoot the F-CKER!!"

07-27-2010, 10:57 PM	#13
ratski UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Lawton, Oklahoma Posts: 875 iTrader: 13 / 100%	Man, I'm really sorry. I didn't read the part about you having a MAC. I guess you didn't read the boxes that the Fiocchi came in, they specifically say that they should never be used in a Mac. Damn, bummer dude. Tell you what. Being the big hearted guy that I am, and not wanting to see you get stuck royally, I'll give you, say, 150 bucks/K just to make you feel better. HA. Seriously, a bunch of this stuff seems to have hit the market recently. I picked up two cases at 300 each and wish I could have gotten more of it. At 175/1000 you did great. Even if it was 115 grn, that would be a good price. Dave __________________ Common Sense is the Least Common of all Man's Senses.

07-27-2010, 08:03 PM	#2
cajun 22 UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisana Posts: 633 iTrader: 18 / 100%	I use it in two SBR uzis with an MK9k and works/sounds good. I ran some in a M11/9 at a class 3 shoot one time and it worked great. The owner said the rate of fire increased a little also. Is there any left where you bought it? Might need to get some more.

07-27-2010, 08:15 PM	#3
StooperZero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,182 iTrader: 30 / 100%	HOW quiet?? with 147' gr JHP all Im getting is bolt cycling and round hitting.

07-27-2010, 09:01 PM	#8
StooperZero Registered User Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: PA Posts: 2,182 iTrader: 30 / 100%	so whatcha gonna do with all that brass?

07-27-2010, 10:13 PM	#10
cajun 22 UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Louisana Posts: 633 iTrader: 18 / 100%	You did damn good on the price. I would say 1/2 of what it is selling for. 7500 rounds will last you about a week once you learn how to load the mags.

07-27-2010, 11:13 PM	#14
texas skeeter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: the last part of america where sh-t is still legal!! Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0%	thanks Dave!! and I got lucky thats all. I guess the sons gotta shine on a dogs a$$ every now and then!! cause i usually always read of some other SHLEPP with the good fortune!! __________________ "Have Ammo?? Lets Party!!:uzi and "When basic morality and legal principal give you a green light to shoot the F-CKER, its probably a good idea to shoot the F-CKER!!"

07-27-2010, 11:41 PM	#15
texas skeeter Registered User Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: the last part of america where sh-t is still legal!! Posts: 179 iTrader: 0 / 0%	however i did find some Winchester Ranger subsonic 147gr FMJ 9mm at WWW.SGAMMO.COM for 119$ per 500rds. looks like they have approx 8000rds in stock.....happy hunting __________________ "Have Ammo?? Lets Party!!:uzi and "When basic morality and legal principal give you a green light to shoot the F-CKER, its probably a good idea to shoot the F-CKER!!"

07-28-2010, 07:22 AM	#16
amphibian UZI Talk Life Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: FL Posts: 3,847 iTrader: 23 / 100%	I got a 500 round case of that 158 gr Fiocchi several years ago. Only shot about a box of it for testing. Chrony'd it and it was really slow. Slower than the IMI Bluetip 158 grain. Both the 158 Gr Fiocchi and 158 Gr IMI Bluetip produced less energy than factory FNM 147 grain or my 147 grain reloads. IMHO, not worth it to reload 158 Gr 9mm unless you want to load hotter than Fiocchi or IMI did and risk having to deal with overpressure issues. Just not worth it to me. __________________ http://www.c3junkie.com